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The Swiss Rip Chirac a New One
01.28.05 (5:47 am)   [edit]
A proposal by French President Jacques Chirac to tax countries which retain banking secrecy has caused controversy in Switzerland.

The Swiss finance minister and banks attacked the suggestion, while non-governmental organisations welcomed it.

At the opening of the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos on Wednesday, Chirac put forward a set of “experimental measures” to finance the fight against Aids. He called for at least $10 billion (SFr12 billion) to be spent annually on combating the disease instead of the $6 billion currently spent.

Among the measures was a proposal that countries which retain banking secrecy – including Switzerland – be charged for income lost through tax evasion. He also called for a tax on international financial transactions.

Swiss Finance Minister Hans-Rudolf Merz said Chirac had no right to interfere in what was an internal matter.

“It's an interference in the internal policy of our country,” Merz told the media.

“The French president has the right to express himself about these issues, but he has to accept the fact that we have our own policy rules and a clear policy on banking secrecy. These issues can be raised in bilateral negotiations at which we will continue to defend banking secrecy.”

“Bizarre”

Swiss banks were also critical of the “bizarre” suggestion and denied that banking secrecy was responsible for a flight of capital.

Michel Dérobert, general secretary of the Swiss Private Bankers’ Association said Chirac had “confused separate issues”.

Swiss Bankers Association spokesman James Nason went further in his criticism:

"The idea is rather bizarre and has a ring of Saint-Simon and early 19th century utopian socialism about it," he told swissinfo.

"Tax evasion and capital flight are symptoms of internal problems in a country and are not caused by the existence of banks in, for example, Monaco or Switzerland.

“A far better idea would be if the oh-so-pious French were to impose a tax on nasty tin-pot dictators who purchase real estate on the Côte d'Azur, topped up with a tax on French bank loans and arms sales to countries with brutally repressive regimes."


NGO approval

But Swiss NGOs welcomed Chirac’s ideas as a sign that politicians were taking up the ideas of opponents of globalisation.

“It’s a very good idea,” commented Andreas Missbach of the Berne Declaration. He said that countries like Switzerland that had banking secrecy swallowed up the tax money of other countries, and it made complete sense to impose a special tax on them.

The Tax Justice Network said many multinationals managed their business in such a way that they avoided paying taxes in the countries in which they operated.

According to the NGO, this tax evasion costs developing countries around $50 billion a year.

swissinfo with agencies
 


posted by: JonC (reply)
post date: 01.28.05 (6:17 am)

Urgent: consult a psychiatrist , your case needs a serious therapy, there are asylums for Lynnkrammer! Inquire!



posted by: LynnKramer (reply)
post date: 01.28.05 (7:29 am)

To JonC
Dans toutes mes lettres, j'essaye plus dur que toute autre chose de me rendre clair. J'essaye d'énoncer des choses aussi simplement et clairement que je bidon, parce que je trouve ce qui est la meilleure manière de convaincre mes lecteurs qui dans la terminologie légale, M. JonC est coupable du veri de suppressio ou de la "dissimulation de la vérité". Avant que je commence, laissez-moi précisent qu'un léopard ne peut pas changer ses taches. En raison de celui, il n'étonne pas qu'un point central de systèmes de croyance de M. JonC's est la notion que M. JonC peut dépasser la nature. Peut-être il devrait tenir compte de quelques nouvelles données et revisiter cette notion. Je pense qu'il constaterait que beaucoup de personnes sont incrédules quand je leur dis qu'il prévoit à la gaufre sur toutes les questions. "comment pourrait M. JonC être si désagréable?", ils me demandent. "ce ne semble pas possible." Bien, il est décidément possible, et maintenant j'expliquerai exactement comment des plans de M. JonC le faire. Mais d'abord, vous devez vous rendre compte que ses mettre-bas ne peuvent pas se tenir sur leur propre mérite. C'est pourquoi ils dépendent des artifices raffinés et des histoires explicatives pour nous convaincre que M. JonC peut absorber le mana en dévorant les cerveaux de ses nemeses'. Presque sans exception, je défie M. JonC de préciser n'importe quel texte dans cette lettre qui propose cela qui fait la chose à la mode est plus importante que la vie ou la liberté. Elle n'est pas là. Il n'y a ni un conseil ni une suggestion d'une telle chose. Si, aujourd'hui, le recommander de son guerre-âme peut l'inciter à prendre à degré de solvabilité pour d'autres des accomplissements, alors imaginer, si vous pouvez, comment cette même âme s'exprimera par M. JonC thousandfold-plus-insipide de demain. Vous ne devriez pas le laisser vous intimider. Vous ne devriez pas le laisser vous pousser autour. Nous sommes ceux qui ont raison, pas M. JonC. Imaginez un monde en lequel il pourrait rendre la vie moins plaisante pour nous toutes les fois qu'il s'est senti comme lui. S'il y a une règle, et il continue à faire des exceptions à cette règle, alors quel bon est la règle ? Je veux dire, si on pourrait obtenir un Ph.D. dans Mandarinism, il serais le premier dans la ligne pour avoir un. Envoyer les tightwads insolents des vacances de safari au lieu de birching publiquement les n'a jamais été quelque chose que j'ai voulu faire. Jamais. Beaucoup les choses que j'ai parlées dans cette lettre sont évidents. Nous tous savons qu'ils sont vrais. Mais il est toujours que nous les disent, parce que presque chaque discussion de matérialisme ignore l'importance critique des entreprises anormales de M. JonC's.

In all my letters, I try harder than anything else to make myself clear. I try to state things as simply and unambiguously as I can, because I find that that's the best way to convince my readers that in legal terminology, M. JonC is guilty of suppressio veri or "concealment of truth". Before I begin, let me point out that a leopard can't change its spots. In view of that, it is not surprising that a central point of M. JonC's belief systems is the notion that M. JonC can override nature. Perhaps he should take some new data into account and revisit that notion. I think he'd find that many people are incredulous when I tell them that he intends to waffle on all the issues. "How could M. JonC be so unsavory?", they ask me. "It doesn't seem possible." Well, it is decidedly possible, and now I'll explain exactly how M. JonC plans to do it. But first, you need to realize that his put-downs cannot stand on their own merit. That's why they're dependent on elaborate artifices and explanatory stories to convince us that M. JonC can absorb mana by devouring his nemeses' brains. Almost without exception, I challenge M. JonC to point out any text in this letter that proposes that doing the fashionable thing is more important than life or liberty. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing.

If, today, the urge of his war-soul can prompt him to take credit for others' accomplishments, then imagine, if you can, how that same soul will express itself through the thousandfold-more-tasteless M. JonC of tomorrow. You shouldn't let him intimidate you. You shouldn't let him push you around. We're the ones who are right, not M. JonC.

Imagine a world in which he could make life less pleasant for us whenever he felt like it. If there's a rule, and he keeps making exceptions to that rule, then what good is the rule? I mean, if one could get a Ph.D. in Mandarinism, he would be the first in line to have one. To send insolent tightwads on safari holidays instead of publicly birching them has never been something that I wanted to do. Never. Many the things I've talked about in this letter are obvious. We all know they're true. But still it's necessary for us to say them, because almost every discussion of materialism ignores the critical importance of M. JonC's aberrant undertakings.





posted by: shayno (reply)
post date: 01.28.05 (10:16 pm)

allow me to offer this opionion in the style you seem to prefer:

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posted by: JonC (reply)
post date: 01.28.05 (11:54 pm)

Reply to: shayno
excellent shayno, I join your thoughts!!!
Peace my friend,
Jon



posted by: WhyNot (reply)
post date: 01.29.05 (9:30 am)

Reply to: shayno

LOL



posted by: jimmytherighteous (reply)
post date: 01.31.05 (10:35 pm)

Reply to: shayno

Wow, that was perfect!

By the way, I'd like to point out to LynnKramer that the United States has plenty of laws that are regarded as being "extraterritorial" and thus impinging upon the sovereignty of other nations. Examples? The Helms-Burton Act, to start with. I'll give you more if you need further explanation.

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