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How Did Gov't Get Involved in "Marriage", a Matter of Religious
02.25.04 (11:36 am)   [edit]
From: "V. C."
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:04 AM
Subject: Should "Marriage" Even Be Defined in Secular Law?

About 15 years ago, my former wife of 26-1/2 years, filed for divorce. We had
seven children, five daughters and two sons. Our youngest at the time, our
second son, was five years old.

At the time, I prepared a counterclaim to the Petition for Dissolution her
attorney filed in Domestic Relations (DR) court. I met one afternoon with the
head of the Maricopa County Superior Court, Marriage License Bureau, in downtown
Phoenix. The marriage license bureau was headed by a young woman of about age
25. I asked her to explain to me the general and statutory implications of the
marriage license. She was very cooperative, and called in an Assistant, a tall
Black man who at the time was working on an Operations Manual for internal
departmental use.

She deferred for most technical explanations to her Assistant. He walked
through the technicalities of the marriage license as it operates in Arizona.
He mentioned that marriage licensing is pretty much the same in the other states
-- but there are differences. One significant difference he mentioned was that
Arizona is one of eight western states that are Community Property states. The
other states are Common Law states, including Utah, with the exception of
Lousiana which is a Napoleonic Code state.

He then explained some of the technicalities of the marriage license He said,
first of all, the marriage license is Secular Contract between the parties and
the State. The State is the principal party in that Secular Contract. The
husband and wife are secondary or inferior parties. The Secular Contract is a
three-way contract between the State, as Principal, and the husband and wife as
the other two legs of the Contract. He said, in the traditional sense a
marriage is a covenant between the husband and wife and God.

But in the Secular Contract with the state, reference to God is a dotted line,
and not officially considered included in the Secular Contract at all. He
said, if the husband and wife wish to include God as a party in their marriage,
that is a "dotted line" they will have to add in their own minds. The state's
marriage license is "strictly secular," he said. He said further, that what he
meant by the relationship to God being a "dotted line" meant that the State
regards any mention of God as irrelevant, even meaningless. In his description
of the marriage license contract, the related one other "dotted line."

He said in the traditional religious context, marriage was a covenant between
the husband and wife and God with husband and wife joined as one. This is not
the case in the secular realm of the state's marriage license contract. The
State is the Principal or dominant party. The husband and wife are merely
contractually "joined" as business partners, not in any religious union. They
may even be considered, he said, connected to each other by another "dotted
line."

The picture he was trying to "paint" was that of a triangle with the State at
the top and a solid line extending from the apex, the State, down the left side
to the husband, and a separate solid line extending down the right side to the
wife, a "dotted line" merely showing that they consider themselves to have
entered into a religious union of some sort that is irrrelevant to the State.
He further mentioned that this "religious overtone" is recognized by the State
by requiring that the marriage must be solemnized either by a state official or
by a minister of religion that has been "deputized" by the State to perform the
marriage ceremony and make a return of the signed and executed marriage license
to the State. Again, he emphasized that marriage is a strictily secular
relationship so far as the State is concerned and because it is looked upon as a
"privileged business enterprise" various tax advantages and other political
privileges have become attached to the marriage license contract that have
nothing at all to do with marriage as a religious covenant or bond between God
and a man and a woman.

By way of reference, if you would like to read a legal treatise on marriage, one
of the best is "Principles of Community Property," by William Defuniak. At the
outset, he explains that Community Property law decends from Roman Civil Law
through the Spanish Codes, 600 A.D., written by the Spanish jurisconsults. In
the civil law, the marriage is considered to be a for-profit venture or
profit-making venture (even though it may never actually produce a profit in
operation) and as the wife goes out to the local market to purchase food stuffs
and other supplies for the marriage household, she is replenishing the stocks of
the business. To restate: In the civil law, the marriage is considered to be a
business venture, that is, a for-profit business venture. Moreover, as children
come into the marriage household, the business venture is considered to have
"borne fruit."

Now, back to the explanation by the Maricopa County Superior Court, Marriage
Bureau's administrative Assistant. He went on to explain that every contract
must have consideration. The State offers consideration
in the form of the actual license itself -- the piece of paper, the Certificate
of Marriage. The other part of consideration by the State is "the privilege to
be regulated by statute." He added that this privilege to be regulated by
statute includes all related statutes, and all court cases as they are ruled on
by the courts, and all statutes and regulations into the future in the years
following the commencement of the marriage.

He said in a way the marriage license contract is a dynamic or flexible,
ever-changing contract as time goes along -- even though the husband and wife
didn't realize that. My thought on this is can it really be considered a true
contract as one becomes aware of the failure by the State to make full
disclosure of the terms and conditions. A contract must be entered into
knowingly, intelligently, intentionally, and with fully informed consent
Otherwise, technically there is no contract. Another way to look as the
marriage license contract with the State is as a contract of adhesion, a
contract between two disparate, unequal parties. Again, a flawed "contract."
Such a contract with the State is said to be a "specific performance" contract
as to the privileges, duties and responsibilities that attach.

Consideration on the part of the husband and wife is the actual fee paid and the
implied agreement to be subject to the state's statutes, rules, and regulations
and all court cases ruled on related to marriage law, family law, children, and
property. He emphasized that this contractual consideration by the bride and
groom places them in a definite and defined-by-law position inferior and subject
to the State. He commented that very few people realize this. He also said
that it is very important to understand that children born to the marriage are
considered by law as "the contract bearing fruit" -- meaning the children
primarily belong to the State, even though the law never comes out and says so
in so many words.

In this regard, children born to the contract regarded as "the contract bearing
fruit," he said it is vitally important for parents to understand two doctrines
that became established in the United States during the 1930s. The first is
the Doctrine of Parens Patriae. The second is the Doctrine of In Loco Parentis.
Parens Patriae means literally "the parent of the country" or to state it more
bluntly -- the State is the undisclosed true parent. Along this line, a 1930s
Arizona Supreme Court case states that parents have no property right in their
children, and have custody of their children during good behavior at the
sufferance of the State. This means that parents may raise their children and
maintain custody of their children as long as they don't offend the State, but
if they in some manner displease the State, the State can step in at any time
and exercise its superior status and take custody and control of its children --
the parents are only conditional caretakers.

He also added a few more technical details. The marriage license is an ongoing
contractual relationship with the State. Technically, the marriage license is
a business license allowing the husband and wife, in the name of the marriage,
to enter into contracts with third parties and contract mortgages and debts.
They can get car loans, home mortgages, and installment debts in the name of the
marriage because it is not only a secular enterprise, but it is looked upon by
the State as a privileged business enterprise as well as a for-profit business
enterprise.

The marriage contract acquires property throughout its existence and over time,
it is hoped, increases in value. Also, the marriage contract "bears fruit" by
adding children. If sometime later, the marriage fails, and a "divorce"
results the contract continues in existence. The "divorce" is merely a
contractual dissolution or amendment of the terms and conditions of the
contract. Jurisdiction of the State over the marriage, over the husband and
wife, now separated, continues and continues over all aspects of the marriage,
over marital property and over children brought into the marriage. That is why
family law and the Domestic Relations court calls "divorce" a dissolution of the
marriage because the contract continues in operation but in amended or modified
form. He also pointed out that the marriage license contract is one of the
strongest, most binding contractual relationships the States has on people

At the end of our hour-long meeting, I somewhat humorously asked if other people
had come in and asked the questions I was asking? The Assistant replied that
in the several years he had worked there, he was not aware of anyone else asking
these questions. He added that he was very glad to see someone interested in
the legal implications of the marriage license and the contractual relationship
it creates with the State. His boss, the young woman Marriage Bureau
department head stated, "You have to understand that people who come in here to
get a marriage license are in heat. The last thing they want to know is
technical, legal and statutory implications of the marriage license."
(Laughter)

I hope this is helpful information to anyone interested in getting more familiar
with the contractual implications of the marriage license. The marriage license
as we know it didn't come into existence until after the Civil War and didn't
become standard practice in all the states until after 1900, becoming firmly
established by 1920. In effect, the states or governments appropriated or usurped control of marriages in secular form and in the process declared Common Law applicable to marriages "abrogated."

Please pass this information along and share it as widely as possible.
Best regards from Virgil Cooper

 


posted by: therealspartacus007 (reply)
post date: 02.25.04 (2:36 pm)

The government has absolutely no business interfering with religious ceremonies or personal relationships.

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